Monday, September 10, 2007

It's in the works..

**update**

another thing is that I am debating cleaning any of it up (so the lines will look all ugly & jagged). what ive got so far isnt cleaned up, but colored. i'll have to post some screenshots of the colored but non-cleaned up scenes & you guys can be the judge.




but then i started fucking up. angles werent right, i had to keep redrawing shit. and it was because i didnt have a storyboard or solid foundation of each scene.

This is one of the backgrounds I had to throw out because I drew it at the wrong angle.

35 comments:

Mike said...

Awesome!!! I was wondering when you would use that character in one of your cartoons. Good luck with it man!!!

Kevin Langley said...

You've been drawing him for years right? I'm definitely looking forward to this.

ryan said...

mike: thanks bro :)

kevin: i sure have, been drawing him since I was 7. he's my beloved main character :)

chrisallison said...

Haha, great! I can't wait to see more. How'sa bout updating us with progress (a scene of storyboards, some colored characters, etc. etc.)? I'll be your best friend.

eddie leahey said...

wow, looking great dude. can we get a peek at a pencil test or something? ;)

joe said...

So is this the pilot you were talking about?

ryan said...

chris & eddie: thanks guys. sure i can post gradual stuff from it.

joe: yup this is the long over-due pilot for Up Chuk Duck. i have four other solid up chuk cartoon stories planned out as well. plus a ton of not-so-solid story ideas.

i chose this one particular story because it seemed to be the least ambitious/difficult. mainly because there is no dialogue & we never have to leave Up Chuks house (since that's where the entire epic takes place).

even though this is the least ambitious of all the stories, it still is going to be a fucking hurdle. since i've been storyboarding it, it's been getting clearer and clearer JUST how much work this thing is gonna take. i was gonna just animate the whole thing straight ahead without a real clear idea of what was gonna happen next (that's how i was making Bird Skipper & how i did all my older cartoons).

so, i got a minute & a half of the pilot animated. but then i started fucking up. angles werent right, i had to keep redrawing shit. and it was because i didnt have a storyboard or solid foundation of each scene. so since that started happening, i've been storyboarding and, for the musical segments, been timing storyboards to music. now i have about 90% of the cartoon storyboarded & once that's finished I can continue on with the animating stage.

i see this taking about a year to complete. & another thing is that I am debating cleaning any of it up (so the lines will look all ugly & jagged). & this is because if i chose NOT to clean it up, it would shave off a TON of work time & i could get it on the internet quicker. what ive got so far isnt cleaned up, but colored. and that doesnt look terrible. but then i keep looking at the title card with Up Chuks head on it. that is a cleaned up drawing, & each time i see it i'm like "damn, if i DID clean up the animation, it would look SO much slicker.." so i dunno we'll see. i'll have to post some screenshots of the colored but non-cleaned up scenes & you guys can be the judge.

joe said...

You should first post up a rough version and then once you finish cleaning it re-post it.

eddie said...

ah yeah man, i know what you mean. dont be afraid to limit the animations in some parts. as long as you do it in a stylish and solid way, i'm sure itll compliment other parts that are getting animated just as well. it can also help you solidify your style in a whole!

Anonymous said...

How long do you expect the cartoon to be?

ryan said...

How long do you expect the cartoon to be?

i'm shooting for no longer than 6 minutes

eddie said...

hey ryan i saw your update. its looking great so far man! i would just suggest animating it as much as you can now, and worry about cleaning up later on man.

chrisallison said...

don't limit the animation, ryan!

i dunno, i feel like the independent cartoon's strength is going to be it's quality (compared to TV studio cartoons that are rushed due to budget constrictions).

i'll have to see how the scenes look moving. individual frames of jim tyer look stupid, but boy oh boy do some of them move really nice. you wouldn't notice. same thing with some scribner stuff.

my question: are you doing lines on one layer, and then colors below? if not, cleanup would mean a lot more work.

chrisallison said...

shit, i forgot to mention it looks real nice as is. : )

ryan said...

hey eddie, yeah thats exactly what im gonna do. and im not gonna color anymore scenes/frames until its all animated

chris: the animation will only be back-brakeingly traditional when necessary. the parts that are "flashy"/cheap wont look near as shitty as other flashy shit so no worries. i am gonna cheat a lot though ;) if i don't cheat, the cartoon will be done in the year 10 hundred billion.

i'll have to see how the scenes look moving.

i would show you what i have animated so far but i just dont want to spoil it!!

individual frames of jim tyer look stupid

hmm i disagree with you for the most part about the jim tyer comment but i do kinda know what you mean.

i definitely disagree about scribner though. i think pretty much every frame grab is super impressive.

are you doing lines on one layer, and then colors below? if not, cleanup would mean a lot more work.

yeah i am doing lines on a diff layer than the colors. lol yeah if i werent it would DEFINITELY mean a lot more work :P

shit, i forgot to mention it looks real nice as is. : )

thanks!

chrisallison said...

well, if it means getting the cartoon done, then by all means limit it a bit. i still think funny motion is the great strength of animators like you and me.

being said, tyer and scribner are two of my favorite artists ever. some frames are just way wacky, and probably wouldn't make for great art out of context, is what i mean. like would you rather have a random tyer frame or a rackham on your wall?

oh, i just finished a minute long film. i'll show you a minute if you show me a minute! email me if you're interested. i'd love to hear what you think.

Dustin said...

I'm stoked! Post pencil tests!

BTW I'm curious, are you currently working in animation or are you doing something else for the time being?

ryan said...

BTW I'm curious, are you currently working in animation or are you doing something else for the time being?

nope, i'm not currently working in animation. i work a minimum wage job for just enough hours to get by & work on my own stuff at the same time. also freelance work comes in now and again which brings in more money.

ryan said...

oh, i just finished a minute long film. i'll show you a minute if you show me a minute!

i cant man, sorry. but can i see your minute anyway?? :D

i dont want to show anybody what ive got so far because i am putting all of my style, personality, and love for certain things into this cartoon - and i dont want to risk any of that being jeopardized before i can finish it (if that even makes any sense).

email me if you're interested. i'd love to hear what you think.

i'd love to tell you what i think! i'll send you an email in attempt to coax you into showing me that minute youve got animated (warning: email may include pictures of my nutsack)

Anonymous said...

"i see this taking about a year to complete."

Would that be that with or without the clean up?

ryan said...

definitely without. clean-up takes fucking forEVERR

crsP said...

ryan said...

"i would show you what i have animated so far but i just dont want to spoil it!!"

I agree with you there. I even put a comment on JohnK's site when he was posting an animatic of a cartoon he hadn't made yet. Most gags are funniest when you first see them, so when you watch the final film it's just not going to get the same reaction because you know what's coming.

I also concur with chrisallison that independents have the opportunity to get the edge over the mainstream in the area of animation. But I've seen stuff done with shape tweening and cell sliding that doesn't make itself as obvious as the usual 'Flash' stuff people put out. Not sure how much sense that makes to people living outside of my brain.

But a year for six minutes...hmm, why don't you go to your local pond, video the ducks, and just rotoscope them! No one will notice - it's the F U T U R E ! ! !

Arschblog said...

I can't wait to see the finished cartoon!!!
It looks great from now(like a classic cartoon)and I'm sure that the finished cartoon will be amazing!:)

I agree, the cleanup takes a hell of time especially when you are picky with the quality!XD

What do you draw first? The character or the background?

Ryan G. said...

Lookin good Ryan. I like the sketchy quality of your lines. Plus its quicker. Definitly keep posting your progress!

James said...

You should post up the cartoon in parts like how you did with "The Big Mistake" and them once you finish the whole thing tie them all together.

bog_art said...

It looks professional man!!.. congratulations..

benj said...

LoOkS GreAT!
I dig the title card!

tek! said...

a year!? i cant wait!
i wouldnt worry too much about clean up for now , your linework has a personal quality to it now.
i'm looking forward to those color-line tests.

R.A. MacNeil said...

Cool man, I look forward to seeing the finished product.

-Ryan

ryan said...

crsp:

why don't you go to your local pond, video the ducks, and just rotoscope them! No one will notice - it's the F U T U R E ! ! !

hahahahahahha

arschblog: thanks! :) the classic cartoon look is definitely what i am going for. & i usually draw the BG first but sometimes i'll do the character first.. it all kind of depends on the scene.

ryan: thanks ryan, i definitely will :)

james: thats a pretty good idea but it wouldnt work with this particular cartoon.

bog: thanks :)

benji: thanks benji, i tried to make it look super fun & happy

tek:

your linework has a personal quality to it now

thanks dude, thats encouraging for the "not cleaning up" route

i'm looking forward to those color-line tests

i've posted them already (the 3 colored pics of his house & living room). there'll be more eventually though that i can post.

ra macneil: awesome, keep coming back!

ZSL said...

I've always loved your crazy linework.
It looks like neither pencil or pen. And it is nifty lookin.

Robert Ninja said...

I've always looked up at you as some sort of older brother of talent.

I sent you an email when I was 12-13 once. Well, I'm 16 now, and dude... you still rock. I wanna be as good at animating as you some day.

Dustin said...

I just noticed that the book is named "Book". That is awesome, please keep that in there

Ryan Kramer said...

i really like finessed cleaned up line work, but the ruff stuff has charm too. Colors are lookin nice!

TheFreak said...

Dude, don't take this the wrong way (because seriously, that's not my intention), but unless you've been told a dozen times before, your blog shares some very eerie similarities to John K.'s...

There are differences I see, though, mainly in how you maintain the humor in your art while Kricfalusi sacrifices it in exchange for gratuitous T&A.

Or maybe I'm just a violent person. It's hard to tell. Either way, I haven't much enjoyed the way John's been handling things in recent years.